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danke für die Bestätigung schwachkopf |
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![]() du sagst es Schwachkopf!
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Cok selamlar Tek Türkiye |
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![]() 1. MARAŞ'TA ERMENİ MEZALİMİ
1908 Halep Vilayeti Salnamesi'ne göre Maraş merkezinde; 4 Ermeni, 3 Protestan, 2 Katolik, 1 Latin kilisesi ve 15 Hıristiyan mektebi, Zeytun'da (Süleymanlı) 6 kilise, 2 manastır, 1 gayri Müslim rüştiye ile 5 iptidai mektebi, Elbistan'da 3 kilise, Göksun'da 1 Ermeni kilisesi ile 4 Protestan mektebi bulunuyordu. Maraş merkezinin nüfusu 46557 Müslüman, 11180 Ermeni, 3567 Katolik olmak üzere toplam 67974 idi. Osmanlı Devleti idaresi altında çok geniş din hürriyetinden istifade eden Ermeniler, 1453-1909 tarihleri arasında mutlu ve imtiyazlı biçimde yaşadılar. İçinde bulunduğu nimetin kıymetini anlamak istemeyen nankör, maceraperest, hayalci, iki yüzlü, ırkçı, hilekar, isyancı, yalancı, kurnaz, inatçı, fırsatçı, menfaati için her şeyi yapan Türk ve İslam düşmanı olan Ermeniler; ülkemizin çeşitli yerlerinde zaman zaman isyan ettiler. Bilhassa Rusya, Amerika ve Avrupa'nın Osmanlı Devleti aleyhinde yaptıkları siyasî propagandaların etkisi altında kalan Anadolu'daki Ermeniler arasında değişik yer ve tarihlerde ayaklanmalar başladı. 1862 de Zeytun'da, 1863 de Van'da ve 1865 de Çarsancak'ta ayaklanarak Osmanlı idaresine karşı olduklarını ortaya koydular. Zeytun'da isyanın hazırlanmasında Maraş'taki Amerikan Koleji'nin ve Amerikalı misyonerlerin çok büyük etkisi oldu. Misyonerler, kaldıkları yarım asır boyunca burada binlerce dolar harcayarak Ermenileri Osmanlı aleyhine yönlendirdiler. Amerikalılar, 1868 de Maraş'a ilk defa konsolos tayin ettirerek faaliyetlerini daha da genişletme imkanı buldular. II. Abdülhamit devrinde Türkiye'de dört yüz Amerikan eğitim kurumu bulunuyordu. Devletin bunlardan ruhsatsız faaliyette bulunanları kapatmak istemesi üzerine Amerikan Elçiliği, dört yüz eğitim kurumundan on kuruma izin verilmesini istedi. Bu istek üzerine on Amerikan eğitim kurumunun faaliyetlerine devam etmesine izin verildi. İzin verilenler arasında Maraş'ta İlahiyat Fakültesi, Amerikan Kız Koleji ve misyoner ikamet haneleri olmak üzere toplam üç kurum vardı. Yani Amerikan eğitim kurumlarının faaliyetlerine devam etmesine izin verilen on kurumdan üçü Maraş'ta idi. Nitekim bu gelişmelerden sonra Maraş'ta toplanan Amerikan misyonerlerinin sayısı hızla arttığı gibi eğitim ve misyonerlik faaliyetleri de yoğunlaştı. Londra'da bulunan Ermeni örgütü Hınçak'ın amacı Osmanlı Devleti'nin içinde bulunan sözde Ermeni meselesinin varlığını Avrupa kamuoyuna duyurmak ve bu kamuoyunu Türkler aleyhinde kışkırtmaktı. Gerçekte ise Londra'da bulunan Hınçak Ermeni örgütü, tamamen İngilizlerin yönetimi, denetim ve desteği altında bulunuyor ve el altından siyasî bir araç olarak kullanıyordu. Londra'da bulunan Hınçak Komitesi şubesinin başkanı Nazarbeg'in planladığı faaliyetler 1895 yılının ilk aylarında başladı. İsyan bölgesi olarak Zeytun seçildi. Bölgeye İngiltere'de bulunan Hınçak Komitesine Mensup bir propaganda ekibi gönderildi. Propaganda gurubu, bölge halkının silahlanmasını sağlarken silah ve paranın komite tarafından gönderileceğini, isyanın başlamasıyla birlikte İngiliz deniz kuvvetlerinin Mersin ve İskenderun limanlarını işgal edeceğini ve karaya asker çıkaracağını söyledi. http://eskiweb.ksu.edu.tr/sites/erme..._mezalimi.html |
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![]() ARMENIAN ATROCITIES IN MARASH DURING THE FIRST WORD WAR
ARMENİAN ATROCİTİES İN MARASH According to 1908 Aleppo Province yearbook, there were 4 Armenian, 3 protestant, 2 catholic and 1 Latin Church and 15 Christian schools in central Marash. 6 churches, 2 monastery, 1 non- Muslim high school and 5 elementary schools were in Zeytun (Suleymanlı). 3 Churches in Elbistan and 1 Armenian church and 4 protestant schools in Goksun were running to provide necessary things to the non-Muslims. The population of central Marash was 67,974 of which 46,557 Muslims, 11,180 Armenians and 3,567 Catholic. The Armenians enjoying wide religious tolerance of the Ottoman Empire lived a happy life between 1453 and 1909. Some of the ungrateful, adventurer, day dreaming, double faced, deceitful, rebellious, liars, cunning, obstinate, opportunist Armenians , the arch enemy of the Turks and the Islamic world, who could have done everything for their own interest, were unable to realize the faith of the Ottomans invested in them and the privileges they had been granted, organized so many rebellions throughout the country. There were numerous rebellions and mutinies among the Armenians influenced by the adverse political propaganda carried out by Russia, America and Europe against the Ottoman Empire. The Armenians rose against the Ottoman rule in Zeytun in 1862, in Van in 1863, and in Çarsancak in 1863. The American College and the American missionaries in Marash played a prominent role in the organization of the rebellion staged in Zeytun. The missionaries agitated the Armenian people living in the region against the Ottoman rule by spending millions of dollars. The Americans further extended their activities by assigning a consular to Marash. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Kahranmanmaraş Sütçü İmam Üniversity (KSÜ) Faculty of Science, departmemt of History. Abdullah Emircan, Mehmet Emin Gerger, Ermeni Vahşeti (Armenian Atrocities), Cemre Yayınları, İstanbul 1992, p.15-16. A. Nimet Kurat, Türkiye ve Rusya, Kültür Bakanlığı Kültür Eserleri Dizisi 150, Ankara, 1990, p. 113. There were nearly four hundred American educational institutes in Turkey during the reign of Abdulhamit II. When the Ottoman government tried to close the unlicensed ones among these, the American consulate asked for the permission for 10 out of them. The Ottoman government granted the permission for them. Among these were the religious school, American Girl's school and the residence of the missionaries in Marash. In other words three out of ten institutes, which were allowed to continue their activities, were in Marash. This in turn resulted in the rapid increase in the number of American missionaries and the intensification of their activities in the region. The biggest goal of the Hunchack committee, centered in London, was to make the European media aware of the so called Armenian matter and provoke them against the Turks. In fact the Hunchack committee in London was under total political and financial control of the British government, and it was used as a tool for their political interest. The activities, planned by the leader of the Hunchack committee, Nazar Beg, in London, were started in the first months of 1895. The site chosen for the rebellion was Zeytun. A propaganda committee consisting of the Hunchack members was sent to the region. The committee started to arm the people and told them that the British government was going to send them arms and money and the British navy was going to occupy Mersin and Iskenderun ports upon the start of the rebellion. The rebel leaders of, representatives of the villages and the members of the propaganda committee held a meeting in Karanlıkdere in September 1895 where they decided the time, way and the site of the rebellion. The rebels were equipped with modern English weapons. The rebellion participated by 6000 Armenians started on 19 October 1895. The rebels occupied the governmental buildings took the soldiers, officers, local and other authorities as hostages. The rebellion spread all through the region in a very short time as planned. However the rebels were surrounded by the troops sent against them. The British, French and the Russian Embassies anxious of the extermination of the rebels by the surrounding troops, asked for the termination of the military movement. As a result of the intervention of the consulates, the rebels surrounded their arms and they, including the committee members, were allowed to leave the country without any charges. The rebels were allowed to leave the country. This was the end of the rebellion. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yaşar Akbıyık, Milli Mücadelede Güney Cephesi: Marash, Atatürk Kültür, Dil ve Tarih Yüksek Kurumu, Atatürk Araştırma Merkezi, Ankara 1999, p. 312. Ahmet Eyicil, Marashta Ermeni Siyasi Faliyetleri (Armenian Activities in Marash), Gün Yayıncılık, Ankara, 1999, pp. 214-226., Osmanlı Arşivi Yıldız Tasnifi Ermeni Meselesi (Ottoman Archaives Yıldız Collection Armenian Question), Tarih Araştırmaları ve Dökümasyon Merkezi Kurma ve Geliştirme Vakfı, İstanbul, 1989, v. 2, p. 433. In a congress of the Armenian committees directed by the patriarch in 1905 in Paris, they decided to establish an Armenian state in Cilicia (Adana and Marash). This decision taken by the influence of the patriarch was the pact of the cross and the sword. The Armenians ,who took the chance that the Ottoman Empire entered the first world war, started to stab the Ottoman army at the back and massacre the innocent Muslim population with big grudge and hatred in order to ruin the Empire from the inside by the provocation of occupying western forces. They ruthlessly massacred 1.5 million Muslims between 1878 and 1915. All these treason and back stabbing of the Armenians culminated in the enactment of the deportation law on 14 May 1915. The Armenians causing great harm to the state and the people were deported to much safer regions. On 23 April 1914 a gendarme team was sent to Zeytun to arrest eight Armenian bandits hiding in a house. The bandits, who refused to surrender, opened fire against the team causing killing an innocent person. Just as the house was surrendered the Armenian Patriarch started to provoke the people and the Armenians attacked the gendarme team. The battle reached the proportion beyond control and the gendarme team had to come back to Marash empty handed. The rebels from Zeytun attacked the 100 Muslims from Andırın discharged from the Zeytun military command on 17 August 1917 and killed them ruthlessly. They also killed many people from Beşen village during this assault. http://eskiweb.ksu.edu.tr/sites/erme...rm_mez(e).html |
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Ich glaub das wird mein letzter Beitrag (Glauben heißt nicht wissen ![]() Ich behaupte nicht das der Genozid stattgefunden hat aber auch nicht das Gegenteil...Ich zweifle lediglich und schließe nichts aus! 138! Augenzeugenberichte von ca 3 Millionen Armeniern eines Geschehnisses das zwischen 1915 und 1917 statt gefunden hat 17! Todesurteile 100 Jahre alte Berichte die auftauchen und einen Genozid belegen (Genauso glaubhaft wie die gefunden Pässe der Terroristen in der Trümmerhaufen des World Trade Centers) Sehr imposant was du da aufführst (Mal abgesehen das keiner die ca. 500.000 türkischen Opfer bedenkt) aber man sollte erst mal den Begriff Völkermord, der in der UN Resolution 260 festgehalten ist, näher erläutern (einfach nachlesen)...Darin wird erläutert das tatsächlich nicht die Anzahl der getöteten alleine maßgeblich ist sondern auch die vorsätzliche Vernichtungsabsicht. Wenn diese Absicht nicht vorhanden ist oder nachweisbar ist, ist es tatsächlich egal wie viele Menschen gestorben sind es wird nicht als Genozid verurteilt. Die Türkei bestreitet nicht das ca 300.000 Armenier umgekommen sind (was, wie wir gelernt haben, nicht alleine maßgeblich ist für die Definition eines Genozids ) sondern die Vernichtungsabsicht laut der UN Resolution. Ich vermute das wenn die Armee damals die Armenier hätte vernichte wollen, hätten sie das auch getan, denn selbst wenn die Zahl von 1.5 Millionen Opfern stimmt bleiben immer noch 1.5 Millionen Menschen die "entkommen" sind! Das ist den Juden zB nicht gelungen 90% der damals in Deutschland lebenden Juden wurden ermordet. Charakteristisch ist das die Armenier außer Landes deportiert worden sind die Juden wurden in KZs deportiert. Warum sollten man die Armenier mit einer Vernichtungsabsicht aus dem Land verweisen? Warum sollte man solch einen logistischen Aufwand betreiben, warum errichtete man keine KZs und deportierte sie dahin, was ja einfacher gewesen wäre? (KZs sind keineswegs eine Erfindung der Deutschen, die gab es vorher auch schon) Die Türken wollten die Armenier los werden keine Frage! Aber welche Beweggründe sollten sie gehabt haben sie alle umbringen zu wollen? Hitler wollte die ganze Welt von den Juden befreien, weil Hitler die ganze Welt erobern wollte. Das die Türken damals die Welt erobern wollten ist mir neu. Juden flüchten in die Türkei um nicht in den KZs zu sterben...In ein Land das kurz vorher 1.5 Millionen Menschen umgebracht haben soll und zwar wegen ihrer ethnischen Herkunft weil sie Christen waren? Warum dann nicht ALLE Christen, warum nicht gleich einen heiligen Krieg ausrufen? Warum wurden nicht im Befreiungskampf Millionen von Griechen abgeschlachtet, oder Franzosen oder Engländer? Ein Krieg/Kampf der nur ein paar Jahre später stattfand? Warum wurden in diesem Fall keine Gräueltaten begangen? Sollte sich das Gemüt der barbarischen Türken sich derart schnell geändert haben? 1.5 Millionen Armenier lassen sich so einfach töten? Ohne Gegenwehr, ohne eine Miliz oder Untergrundbewegung und das auch noch innerhalb von nur 2!!!!! Jahren 1.5 Millionen Menschen in 2 Jahren? Man sieht Fragen über Fragen über die sich schon weitaus intelligentere Menschen den Kopf zerbrochen haben als die die hier Anwesend sind! Wie zB folgende Länder, die die Vorkommnisse als Genozid bezeichnen so wie die UN ihn festgelegt hat zB Polen, Holland (2005), Slowakei, Canada, Schweiz, Frankreich Italien, im November 2000 Polen (April 2005), Holland (März 2005), Slowakei (Dezember 2004), Canada (April 2004), Uruguay (2004), Schweiz (Dezember 2003), Frankreich (2002), Libanon (Mai 2000), Italien (2000), Schweden (März 2000), Belgien (1998), Griechenland (1996), Bulgarien ( 1995), Argentinien (1995), Vatikan (1995), Russland (1995) und Zypern (1990). Die Jahreszahlen bezeichnen das Jahr der Anerkennung (Fällt da was auf? Was war in den Jahren von 1917 bis 1990?) Alle nicht aufgeführten Länder bezeichnen die Vorkommnisse nicht als Völkermord Wie gesagt ich leugne nichts, sondern ich habe meine Zweifel. Mögen alle Opfer in Frieden ruhen...Armenische sowie Türkische. Mekanlari cennet olsun! Geändert von NetteAffaere (20.04.2010 um 23:18 Uhr). |
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gerçekten düşüncelerini çok güzel şekilde ifade etmişsin, burda bazı üyeler madalyonun bu yüzünü görmek istemiyor ![]() http://video.google.de/videoplay?doc...2681743880519# |
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![]() Es wurde schon alles gesagt, nur noch nicht von jedem.
Karl Valentin |