[1insanol]

How Our Man declined to rule Turkey





In November 1938 Kemal Ataturk President of Turkey,lay dying.During the 15
years of his stern dictatorship, he had dragged a reluetant Turkey forcihly
into 20th Century.He had broken the powers of Islam.He had introduced the Latin
alphabet.

Now, on his deatbbed,Ataturk feared it would be impossible to find a successor
able to continue his work. He summoned Sir Petry Loraine,the British
Ambassador, to the presendential palace in Istanbul. What passed between them has
remained secret for nearly 30 years. It is revealed for the first time by Piers
Dixen in his life of his father.Sir Pierson Dixon(“Double Diploms, to he
published by Ilutchinson this week): Among Pierson Dixon´s papers was a
telegram from Petry Loraine to the Foreign Secretary.Lord Halifax.In what is
surely one one of the strangest of all documents of recent British
history.Loraine recounts his bizarre interview with the dying dictator.



On my arrival... I found his Excellency propped up by piliows with two doctors
and two in attendance...On my entry the President dismissed the doctors and
nurses, telling them curtly that he would ring of he required anything...

His Excellence then spoke to me slowly but carefully.He said he had sent for me
because, while he wished in no way to place me in an unfair position.He ha an
urgent request to make of me to which he hoped. I wold no doubt recall the many
interviews.In the course of a long and adventurous career, I had made and los
many friends and had taken and discareded much advice.My friendshipd and advice
was the one which he valued most consistent.It was for this reason that on
varios o(css)ions...He had consulted me as freely as though I had been a Turkish
Cabinet Minister myself.

It was his prerogative as President of the Republic to nominate a successor
before his demuse.His most biggest wish was that I should succed him as
President and for this reason he wished to know that my reactions would be to
this proposal.

After some minutes of silent reflection I told his.Excellency in reply that I
was quite unable to formulate any words whic adequately expressed my
feelings.Indeed I was at that moment more deeply moved thant I could ever
remember beeing at any other time in my career.

By his proposil his excellency had paid unique comliment not only to me
personally but also to the foreign policy of his Hajes Government. His
Excellency would realise that I had argent the greater part of my life in the
service of Goverment...

I hoped that I might have many years of such service still in front of me. His
Excellency had asked for a straight answer and I would give him that answer.I
avely doubled whether my best qualities lay in the adminstrative aphere.The
responsibilities of a President of Turkish Republic were wastly different from
those of a Brithis Ambassador and I felt that my abilities and experience were
best employed by continuing in the letter capacity... I must therefore
regretfowly but decline.

When I had anished speaking the President showed signts of great emoting. He
senk back on the pillows and rang for his nurses who adroinistered a
restorative.

When he was able to speak agains his excellency informed me he fully understood
the reasons which had influenced my decision.Je was good enough to say that,
though bitterly disappointed.It was in a sense the reply he would have expected
from me..He would therefore nominate Ismet Inönü in my place.

Ataturk then raises himself on his elbows and g(asp)ed my hand.He thanked me for
what I had done for the furtherance of AngloTurkish friendship and then sank
back in an unconsiclous state. I accordingly deemed it best do withdraw.

I shall be most grateful if I can receive form your Lordship a message of
approval of the action which I have taken.

Please inform The King.



Written by the Diplomatic History Martin Gilbert

.------------------
Neyin Bayramı?
Yedi düveli düşmanı denize döken aziz milletimi katl eden, dinine imanina saldıran, Zorlan yahudi şapkası taktıran, yazısını kitabını tarihini yasaklayan, karşı gelen onbinlerce mazlumu darağaçlarda sallayan,bugünkü tüm olumsuzlukların temelini o günden atan ingiliz yahudi uşaklarının ilanlarımı bayram.....

Satılmış ne idüğü belirsiz ingiliz ve yahudierin hatırı için Müslüman birliğini yıkıp İslam alemini perişan edip yetim bırakan, ingiliz arşivlerine göre (Yukarda ASLI asılı)onların casusu olan m kemale mal edilen herşey sahtedir.Kahramanlıkların bütünü Müslüman miletimize aittir.Türkü , çerkezi, arapi, kurdu, lazı hatta Sudanlı zenci musalara aittir.Biraz gerçek tarih okuyan herkes bu gerçekleri görebilir

[Der_Levantiner]

O Bayramin degerini sen anlayamazsin zaten. Cumhurbaskani Apo Gül' hastaymis. Vah tühh vay nasil olur hallar. Dileriz ki kurban bayramina iyilesir ,)

Zitat von Der_Levantiner

O Bayramin degerini sen anlayamazsin zaten. Cumhurbaskani Apo Gül' hastaymis. Vah tühh vay nasil olur hallar. Dileriz ki kurban bayramina iyilesir ,)

Hey Levi, freut mich wieder von dir zu lesen.

schade, du hast so schnell aufgegeben. jetzt hab ich keinen mehr zum diskutieren.

[1insanol]

Birsey bilsende konussan gam yemeyecegim
Tapanak sövalyeligini birakinda biraz gercek tarih okuyun..
yukardaki Yukarda bahsi gecen belge ingiliz devlet arsivinde, yalansa Gitin cürütün dogruysa atanizin satilmis oldugunu kabul etmeye mecbursunuz.
Özetle bakin o belgede neler yaziyor
How Our Man declined to rule Turkey
ADAMIMIZ TÜRKIYEYI IDAR ETMEYI NASIL RET ETTI.. basligiyla 1968 li yillardan sonra londrada bir cok gazetelerde yer alan, ingiliz devlet arsivlerinde mevcut iddianin özeti

1938 tarihinde Kemal Ataturk, ölüm yataginda oldugu halde, Sir Petry Loraine( ingilist sefirini) yanina cagirarak Ona Türkiyenin idaresini ele almayi keklif etti.Bu konusmada gecen olaylar 30 sene( DEVLET SIRRI OLARAK)gizli kaldi. Pierson Dixly, Sir Petry Loraine, ilk olarak bu görüsmede gecen olaylari aciklamaya basladi., cünkü babasindan kalan hatiralar vardi.Babasindan bir günlük kalmisdi. O günlükde Atatürk ile olan görüsmesi de yaziyordu. O yazida ozamanin Cumurbaskani Kemal Ataturk onu nasil yanina cagirdigini anlatiyor.Bu cagirmasinin bir nedeni vardi. Kendisi ölüm yataginda oldugunu ve Türkiyenin onun istedigi gibil devam ettiren birisini ariyordu.kendisinin hasta oldugunu idareyi kendilerinin üstlenmesini teklif ediyor.Sir Petry Loraine teklif karsisinda, kendisi de sok olup ne söyliyecegini bilemedi. israr üzerine bu teklifi degerlendireceklerini ona haber verecegini söyleyen Sir Petry Loraine, ülkesine dönmenin kararini aliyor. Kemal Atatürk onun elline tutup, onun Türkiye-Ingiliz dostlugu icin sarfettidigi gayret icin, tessekur ediyor. Ataturk Ingiliz Kralicesini slm yollamasini istiyor.
---------
Written by the Diplomatic History Martin Gilbert

[turkogluturkiye]

Bu arsiv bilgisi dogruysa cok su kaldirir

Zitat von turkogluturkiye

Bu arsiv bilgisi dogruysa cok su kaldirir

arsiv bilgisi dogru ve hic su kaldirmadi. bu yeni ortaya cikan bir olay degilki.

merak eden londrada arsivde daha nice seyler okuyabilir. nedense atatürk hakkinda konusmak hala yasak oldugu icin ve atanin tabu oldugu icin bunlari konusmak isteyen yok.

atatürkü o cok sevenler gidip arsivlerdeki verileri okuyup sonra sevip sevmediklerine karar verse daha dogru olur.

ama aptal insanlar hic tanimadigi ve arastirmadigi insani sevmeyi ve tapmayi bir marifet zannediyor.

bildiklerini türkiyedeki sansürlenmis kaynaklardan aliyorlar.

yunan devlet arsivi ve fransa devlet arsivinde daha cok ilginc mustafa kemal hakkinda bilgi toplayabilirsin.


ps. yunan arsivlerinde mustafa kemala o.cocugu deniliyor. o kadar seviyorlarsa atayi gidip yunan arsivlerindeki bu kaydi sildirsinler

[Der_Levantiner]

Evet Yunanlilar Atatürk'e en agir hakaretler ederler. Neden aceba? Bayraklarini ayaklarinin altina alip cignemedigi icin mi?

Bir Yunanlilar, bir diger Türkiye düsmanlari Atatürk'e böyle hakaret ederler! Bu duruma ben nedense hic sasmiyorum. Ya sen? Tamam cevap verme! Zaten Vaybee'ye girecek vaktim yok su siralar. Ben cevabi biliyorum.

Bütün islam ülkelerinin toplasan 5 tane cruise missile etmez neden aceba? Buna da cevap verme.

[incroyable]

bir "türk" ingiliz ve yunan arsivlerine inaniyorsa o türkün türklügünden süphem var

[Billy73]

iste ne yapsin atacigimiz caresizlikten. kanaklardan hayir gelmiyecegini görmüss. her gün zar zar müezzinler bastirinca her akilsiz bile bilmesi lazim bu devletten kimseye hayir gelmiyecegi.

ama ne yapcaksin. bi sey yapacak yok. düsünme düsmanlarina sonunda devleti vermeye kaldi.......

1insanol

sen nickinin yansittigini herhalde kendin uygulamiyorsun...

woran ist eigentlich Mustafa Kemal Atatürk gestorben?
An einer Leberzirrhose!!!
Gesetzt dem Fall, dass Atatürk an seinem Sterbebett mit irgend jemanden worüber auch immer gesprochen haben soll, so wie Du es darstellst, dann kann ich Dich nur auf die Krankheit Atatürks und Deine maßlose Dämlichkeit aufmerksam machen.
Da die Leber insbesondere im Endstadium der Leberzirrhose für das Gehirn gefährliche Giftstoffe nicht abbauen kann, zerstören diese Giftstoffe Gehirnzellen. Es kommt unter anderem zur Verwirrtheit, Schläfrigkeit, Euphorie/Depressionen, Konzentrationsschwierigkeiten, Apathie, etc.
Hast Du schon mal einen Menschen mit einer Leberzirrhose gesehen?

Wie niederträchtig doch Menschen sind, die das Leid des anderen zu ihrem Vorteil nutzen und dann auch noch zu solch' niederträchtigen Zwecken mißbrauchen. Politik ist eben ein schmutziges Pflaster...

Erst informieren, dann schreiben.