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aliconda 28.08.2004 15:07

Vielen Dank! Sehr gnädig! o.T.
 
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aliconda 28.08.2004 15:36

Black Stockings 1899 o.T.
 
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aliconda 28.08.2004 15:47

Zur Info: (engl.)
 
Bit of an open ended question where the actual history dates back to even before the teams were formed!!

The first Turkish football team was formed way back in 1899 in the form Black Stockings FC. Due to the Ottoman rule, men playing sport was only something the Ottomans watched and not participated in as it was seen "immoral". However, despite this restriction many Ottomans had taken interest in this Brittish sport that hit their shores. They often turned up in their thousands to watch matches between the British and Greek labourers. In 1899, some of the Ottoman enthusiasts decided to bypass authorities and legal boundaries and set up Black Stockings as an underground operation... and football had finally arrived in Turkiye!

The above team played a few matches before it had to fold due to legal reasons. However, when the laws relaxed a few years later a Gymnastics club was formed to help bring sport to Ottomans. This club was set up Istanbul"s Besiktas district 100 years ago and became known as Besiktas Jimnastik Kulubu (BJK). Despite pionerring sport in the country, the club never participated in football until 1911.

In the meantime a college football team was formed in 1905. This team was given the name of the educational establishment - Galatasaray. Backed by rich ambassadors and strong European contacts, Galatasaray played a series of matches against teams of other countries. Legend has it that one of the first signings was known to the spectators simply as Cim (Jim), he was an English forward who often popped up on the scoresheet. Due to his prolific goalscoring record the crowd would chant for him, singing "Cim Bom Bom", Bom Bom meaning the bombing affect of his goals. The club have since adopted that chant to be their very own nickname.....

After a couple of years Galatasaray thought it to be too mundane playing foreign teams all the time. So they assigned a few members of their board to set up another team to become their rivals. In 1907, Fenerbahce was formed. However, unlike Galatasaray, Fenerbahce were from a poorer part of the city and located in the Asian side. Due to the difficaulties that faced this new club and it"s hardship which mirrored the majority soon made this team the peoples choice...

These three clubs are the foundations of Turkish football and played an amazing part in bringing the sport to the country. They are all older than the republic and therefore crucial to the country"s economic welfare among other things. Istanbulspor came about quite a few years later and never managed to make up the ground that the "big 3" had ahead of them.

28.08.2004 19:21

Besiktasta! o.T.
 
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28.08.2004 19:26

Aha :) o.T.
 
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28.08.2004 20:28

:o) aliye-kondu
 
1. Atatürk Fenerli yapip ve sadece onlarin atasi gibi gösteren zihniyet sahibi arkadasim, yalnistasin.

2. ulu önder Fenerli oldugu kadar diyarbakirsporluydu, erzincansporluydu ve bilumum ilimizin sporunu destekliyordu.
Neden? Atamiz Fenerbahce Cumhuriyetini degil, Türkiye Cumhuriyetini kurdu!!

3.Mac bitimindeki söylesiyi kimse ispatlayamadi. Hem ispatlansada, ne fark eder. Atamiz kendisinin halk`tan hicbir zaman daha üst görmedi. Herkes gibi o da tercihini yapabilir ve takim taraftari olabilir.

4. Türkiyenin diger güzide kulüplerinin CUmhuriyetin kurulusunda hic paylari yoktu gibi göstermek isteyen sen, asil vatan hainligini yapiyorsun! Galatasaray nice sehitler vermis. Besiktas nice sehitler vermis. Bu kulüplerimiz ulusumuzun ve ulu önderin pesinde degillermiydi?

Sen hayir diyorsun! Ve bu yüzden sizden NEFRET ediyorum !!

Karaköy out! Kadiköy in!

ultrAslan-Avrupa

Emre

kes 28.08.2004 21:44

und auf türkisch? o.T.
 
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kes 28.08.2004 21:45

sakarya-gs 1-2 hasan und hakan s. o.T.
 
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kes 28.08.2004 21:46

ali ??? bist du stern-geil??? o.T.
 
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vatandas007 28.08.2004 22:03

ich meine Chapmions League o.T.
 
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29.08.2004 01:20

Benden 10 Yildiz :)) o.T.
 
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29.08.2004 11:18

hooijdonk bommt fener zum drıtten sıeg
 
ın folge. also ıch weıss nıcht beı all dıeser alex euphorıe sollten wır unseren super pıerre nıcht eınfach zur seıte schıeben. gestern war er der beste mann beı fener eın rıchtıger führer er sagt allen spıelern wıe sıe zu stehen und zu spıelen haben. der verlaengerte arm von daum auf dem platz. verhındert tore und wenn vorne nıchts mehr geht macht er selbst dıe tore. pıerre van hooıjdonk ıst eın spıeler der extra klasse kopfball, freıstoss, schuesse alles keın problem eın kompletter spıeler. fenerbahce wırd wıeder meıster keın zweıfel.

29.08.2004 11:20

alles laeuft hervorrragend mache urlaub
 
ın marmarıs und fener bommt sıch ın kayserı an dıe tabellenspıtze. ıch hoffe nıcht das es dıeses jahr wıeder so eıntoenıg wırd wıe letzte saıson. aber fener wırd wıeder meıster. und dıe anderen werden dumm ın dıe waesche gucken.

kes 29.08.2004 12:51

"eın rıchtıger führer "...wie soll man..
 
das verstehen???

löl

29.08.2004 12:56

:-)
 
Nein der ist nicht Sternsüchtig, Aliku$ hat die Vogelseuche;*p

29.08.2004 13:22

Besiktas Inönü Stadi bitti...
 
Dün Lig TV de Karakartal programinda Stadin son halini gösterdiler.

Isler bitmis, sadece son retuslar yapiliyordu.

Ben cok begendim valla. Kisa bir sürede cok güzel is becerdi yönetim (eski yönetimde tabii, onlarin projesiydi, beraber calistilar!).

Sahaya cok yakin, mesela köse vurusu noktasindan ilk koltuklarin arasi 4 metre civarinda :) Eh, misafir takimlara kolay gelsin bu arada :)))

kes 29.08.2004 13:42

und die erste niederlage folgt auch so..
 
gleich :)

ahmetdursun 29.08.2004 13:49

wetten wir um Döner Teller ??? o.T.
 
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kes 29.08.2004 14:06

beraberlik benim :) o.T.
 
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newgen 29.08.2004 14:17

Galatasarayin Pilot-Takimi
 
"After a couple of years Galatasaray thought it to be too mundane playing foreign teams all the time. So they assigned a few members of their board to set up another team to become their rivals."

Besle Kargayi oysun gözünü, oder Undank ist des Welten lohn. Adamlari kuruyoruz simdi de sanli Galatasaraya düsmanlik yapiyorlar. Siz derdiniz ya Bir gün herkes FBli olacak... siz zaten kurulusdan Galatasarayliymisiniz be.

29.08.2004 15:01

hayirli ugurlu olsun
 
nice basarilara insallah. (ilk macinizdan sonra taabi :o) )

29.08.2004 15:31

micarim galatasaraya
 
galatasarayli olacagima giderim dazlak olurum daha iyi

29.08.2004 15:38

37 € für Rooney
 
Millet demedi demeyin...yeni bir Gascoigne geliyorrrr...mit allem drum und dran ...

tip ayni huy ayni

wat soll man da erwarten

ata 29.08.2004 16:05

hehe sagol ;-) o.T.
 
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ata 29.08.2004 16:08

güzel oldu
 
kale arkalarinin ve yan taraflarin sahaya yakin olmasi cok iyi oldu. Yalniz bununla bitmemesi lazim stadin, catilarada bir care bulmalari gerek, kapalinin catisi yeni aciginkinden cok daha alcakta duruyor. eski yönetim sacma sapan bir cati yaptirdi yeni aciga.

köse vuruslari nasil kullanilcak ben merak ediyorum acikcasi, hele gs ve fb li oyuncular :-)

kes 29.08.2004 16:11

wir kommen durch die mitte hehe o.T.
 
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kes 29.08.2004 16:11

hast die 6 nullen vergessen :)
 
0 0 0 0 0 0

hier :)

kes 29.08.2004 16:12

super o.T.
 
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kes 29.08.2004 17:25

Ilk türk futbol takimi kimmI???
 
<a href="redirect.jsp?url=http://www.spor3.com/detay.asp?ID=73690
ob" target="_blank">http://www.spor3.com/detay.asp?ID=73690
ob</a> es stimmt :)

kes 29.08.2004 21:15

gaziantep-bjk 4-3
 
antep hätte fast ein 4-0 verspielt...

ne ne ne

30.08.2004 00:37

Yahu anlamiyorum. Hadi Besiktas iste-
 
digi gibi oynayamiyor, firsatlarini kaciriyor, sanssiz ve bazende beceriksiz.

Ama bu hakemler nedense hep Besiktas maclarinda hata yapiyorlar.

Dogru degilse, yalan deyin!

Ilk yarida Sergeni düsürdüler, penalti vermedi. Sonra Antep lehine penalti vardi, Sergene vermedi diye, onuda calmadi.

2. yarinin sonlarinda 10 saniye icinde iki Penaltilik pozisyonu görmedi hakem, yan hakemde görmedi. Pekii nereye bakiyordu bunlar?



Das geht doch zu weit he....

30.08.2004 01:20

TAHMIN YARISMASI -> 04. Hafta SONUCLAR
 
Selam Arkadaslar!

Asagida bu haftanin sonuclari, yarismanin genel Puan durumunu ve katilimi okuyabilirsiniz. Yanlisliklari önlemek icin herkesten kendi Puanini tekrar hesaplasin!


Haftanın sonuçları:

28 17:00 B.Ş. Ankara 3 - 2 Denizli
28 18:00 F.Bahçe 2 - 0 Kayseri
28 19:00 Konya 2 - 1 İstanbul
28 19:00 Ç.Rize 2 - 0 Samsun
28 20:30 Sakarya 1 - 2 G.Saray

29 18:00 Trabzon 3 - 1 G.Birliği
29 19:00 A.Gücü 2 - 1 A.Sebat
29 19:00 D.Bakır 1 - 2 Malatya
29 20:00 Beşiktaş 3 - 4 G.Antep


Bu Hafta :

14 puan: xxSINAN07xx
12 puan: AhmetDursun, shubuo
11 puan: BerkkanT, JayKay
10 puan: LaSeNoRiTa
9 puan: Derbeder80, ferhatxtunc, Turkishboy17
8 puan: airdem, aliconda, newgen
7 puan: Arsena, ATA, BlackFlame, Ibo61, tarik21
6 puan: BratPitt, LazOssi
5 puan: KorkutEken
4 puan: kes


Toplam:

1. airdem, JayKay: 36 puan
2. BlackFlame: 35 puan
3. newgen: 34 puan
4. xxSINAN07xx: 33 puan
5. AhmetDursun: 32 puan
6. Derbeder80, Ibo61: 31 puan
7. Arsena, ferhatxtunc, 30 puan
8. tarik21, Turkishboy17: 26 puan
9. KorkutEken, LaSeNoRiTa: 25 puan
10. kes: 24 puan
11. ATA, BerkkanT, Cengaver: 23 puan
12. LazOssi: 22 puan
13. BratPitt: 19
14. shubuo, xxxSexyLoverxxx: 17 puan
16. aliconda: 14 puan
15. UhBarracuda: 7 puan


Ortalama (sezon sonunda hesaplanacak, su an sadece kac kez katildigin yaziyor):

AhmetDursun (4)
airdem (4)
Aliconda (3) -&gt gefehlt: 02. Woche
Arsena (4)
ATA (4)
BerkkanT (3)
BlackFlame (4)
BratPitt (4)
Cengaver (3) -&gt gefehlt: 04. Woche
CK (1) -&gt gefehlt: 04. Woche
Derbeder80 (4)
ferhatxtunc (4)
Ibo61 (3)
JayKay (4)
kes (4)
KorkutEken (4)
LaSeNoRiTa (3)
LazOssi (3)
newgen (4)
shubuo (3)
tarik21 (3)
UhBarracuda (1) -&gt gefehlt: 02., 03., 04. Woche
Turkishboy17 (4)
xxSINAN07xx (3)
xxxSexyLoverxxx (3) -&gt gefehlt: 04. Woche


Birinci olanlar :

1 x Ibo61, newgen, tarik21, xxSINAN07xx


Evet arkadaslar haftanin tahmin sonuclar böyle. Haftaya yine yarismak üzere…

Sevgiler, saygilar...


airdem & BratPitt & kes

30.08.2004 01:32

Süper Lig 4. Hafta Puan Durumu
 
1. Trabzon 12
2. F.Bahçe 10
3. Denizli 9
4. G.Saray 9
5. G.Antep 9
6. Malatya 7
7. B.Ş. Ankara 7
8. A.Gücü 6
9. Ç.Rize 5
10. D.Bakır 5
11. G.Birliği 5
12. Konya 5
13. Beşiktaş 2
14. Samsun 2
15. İstanbul 2
16. A.Sebat 1
17. Kayserispor 1
18. Sakaryaspor 0

kes 30.08.2004 02:03

danke airdem.weit abgeschlagen :(( o.T.
 
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kes 30.08.2004 02:11

ja jaziriye yapialn faul???
 
ya serdarin kasitli faulu? kirmizi kart yokmuydu orda?

hakem iki takim icinde kötü mac yönetdi.

30.08.2004 10:43

Besiktas gibi sende sanssizsin :)) o.T.
 
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30.08.2004 10:45

O pozisyonu maalesef görmedim...
 
ama yukaridada dedigim gibi, Antepe verilmesi gereken bir penaltida vardi.

Demek istedigim, bu hatalar nedense hep Besiktas maclarinda yapiliyor. Adini duymadigim hakemler ataniyor. Ona gicik oluyorum.

Gencler macindada cok kötü yönetim vardi ve dogru yönetilseydi belki ilk 3 puanimizi alacaktik.

kes 30.08.2004 14:58

yilnur ören? kac yillik hakem yaaa hehee
 
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kes 30.08.2004 14:59

önen :) o.T.
 
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aliconda 30.08.2004 15:53

... ganz so war es nicht!
 
Es stimmt, Fenerbahce wurde von Spielern mitgegründet die zuvor bei Galatasaray gespielt haben!

Das tut niemand bestreiten!

Im englischen scheint es aber etwas unglücklich formuliert zu sein.

Wenn du die türkischen (auf "türkisch" !!!)Quellen liest, wirst du merken, dass nicht Galatasaray jemanden "ausgeschickt" hat, um einen neuen Verein zu gründen.
Sondern, dass einige Spieler mit der "Situation" von Galatasaray nicht "einverstanden" waren und deswegen lieber eine neue Mannschaft gegründet haben.

Also münze es dir nicht zu recht ;-)

al"


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